Asbestos: A Conspiracy 4,500 Years in the Making
They knew. They always knew.
Nearly 2,000 years ago, Roman historian Pliny the Elder documented asbestos workers dying from "sickness of the lungs"—watching slaves fashion crude respirators from animal bladders while weaving what he called "funeral dress for kings." The people closest to the dust understood the danger. The people farthest away admired the spectacle, collected the profits, and buried the evidence. That pattern never changed.
Asbestos: A Conspiracy 4,500 Years in the Making traces humanity's 4,500-year relationship with the mineral the ancient Greeks named "asbestos"—meaning indestructible. From Stone Age Finnish pottery (2500 BCE) to the $70+ billion in legal damages paid by modern corporations, we uncover how a material praised for safety became a source of sickness, litigation, and grief.
Each episode explores:
- Ancient origins: The salamander myth that persisted for 2,000 years, the Roman tablecloths that cleaned themselves in fire, the sacred flames kept burning with asbestos wicks
- The industrial cover-up: Internal documents proving companies knew asbestos caused cancer since the 1930s—and suppressed the evidence for 40 years
- Modern consequences: Why mesothelioma claims 3,000 American lives annually, and why $30+ billion sits in asbestos trust funds waiting for victims who never file
- The science of denial: How manufactured doubt delayed regulation for decades, using the same tactics as the tobacco industry—sometimes with the same scientists
Whether you're a history enthusiast, legal professional, medical researcher, or someone seeking answers after asbestos exposure, this podcast reveals the uncomfortable truth: the longest-running industrial cover-up in human history isn't ancient history. It's still happening.
The History of Asbestos Podcast is sponsored by Danziger & De Llano, a nationwide mesothelioma law firm with over 30 years of experience and nearly $2 billion recovered for asbestos victims.
If you or a loved one has mesothelioma, visit Dandell.com for a free consultation.
Asbestos: A Conspiracy 4,500 Years in the Making
Episode 6: What the Ancients Left Behind
Ancient writers described asbestos cloth in extraordinary detail—funeral shrouds for emperors, fire-cleaned napkins for Roman banquets, eternal lamp wicks for Greek temples. But when archaeologists search for physical evidence, they find almost nothing. The Mediterranean sources that documented asbestos obsessively left no artifacts behind.
This is the paradox at the heart of ancient asbestos history. And it's the template for everything that comes after: evidence that should exist but doesn't, documentation that conveniently disappears, questions nobody thought to ask until it was too late.
In this Arc 1 finale, we examine:
- Why systematic archaeological surveys at Karystos (Greece)—375+ sites, 9,000+ artifacts—found zero evidence of the asbestos production ancient writers described
- How Finnish Neolithic pottery provides better physical evidence of ancient asbestos use than all Mediterranean literary sources combined
- What we can actually verify (Byzantine 1196 AD, Franklin's 1725 purse) versus claims that circulate without primary documentation
The pattern matters today. The same gap between what was known and what was documented—between evidence that existed and evidence that survived—shaped how asbestos companies operated in the 20th century. Internal memos buried. Health studies suppressed. Workers kept in the dark for decades.
If you or someone you love has been diagnosed with mesothelioma, the attorneys at Danziger & De Llano have spent 30+ years uncovering the evidence asbestos companies tried to hide. Unlike ancient sources, modern corporate paper trails don't disappear—if you know where to look.
Resources from Danziger & De Llano:
→ Understanding your mesothelioma diagnosis: https://dandell.com/mesothelioma/
→ Common asbestos exposure sources by occupation: https://dandell.com/asbestos-exposure/
→ Asbestos trust funds ($30+ billion available): https://dandell.com/asbestos-trust-funds/
→ Veterans and mesothelioma (30% of cases): https://dandell.com/veterans-mesothelioma/
→ Free case evaluation: https://dandell.com/contact/
Book: "Beating The Odds: Surviving with Mesothelioma" by Dave Foster — Real survival stories from patients given months to live. Available on Amazon or request a free copy from the firm.
Related listening: Katherine Keys, the longest documented mesothelioma survivor (18+ years), shares her story in a three-part interview on our sister podcast, MESO: The Mesothelioma Podcast.
Asbestos: A Conspiracy 4,500 Years in the Making is sponsored by Danziger & De Llano Mesothelioma Law Firm, a nationwide practice with over 30 years of experience and nearly $2 billion recovered for asbestos victims. If you or someone you love has been diagnosed with mesothelioma, the exposure happened somewhere—and Paul Danziger and Rod De Llano know how to trace it back. For a free consultation, visit https://dandell.com.
Resources:
→ Mesothelioma legal rights: https://dandell.com/mesothelioma/
→ Asbestos exposure sources: https://dandell.com/asbestos-exposure/
→ Asbestos trust funds ($30B+ available): https://dandell.com/asbestos-trust-funds/
→ Free case evaluation: https://dandell.com/contact/
Sister Podcast - MESO: The Mesothelioma Podcast:
http://mesotheliomapodcast.com/
Episode 6 Transcript: What the Ancients Left Behind
Asbestos: A Conspiracy 4,500 Years in the Making
Series: Asbestos: A Conspiracy 4,500 Years in the Making
Episode: 6 — Arc 1 Finale: The Ancient World
Published: 12/29/2025
Sponsor: Danziger & De Llano: Mesothelioma Law Firm — https://dandell.com
Episode Summary
This episode examines the paradox at the heart of ancient asbestos history: while Mediterranean writers like Pliny, Strabo, and Pausanias documented asbestos cloth in vivid detail, the archaeological evidence for ancient asbestos use is remarkably thin—except in one unexpected place. The best physical evidence comes not from Greece or Rome, but from Finnish Neolithic pottery dating to approximately 4700 BCE. Meanwhile, systematic archaeological surveys at famous ancient asbestos sources like Karystos (Greece) and Amiantos (Cyprus) have found zero evidence of ancient asbestos production.
The episode also addresses why mesothelioma doesn't appear in ancient human remains—a question with straightforward answers involving soft tissue preservation, scale of exposure, and the fact that no researcher has specifically searched for asbestos-related disease in mummified remains.
Why this matters today: The pattern of evidence gaps, buried documentation, and questions nobody asked until too late didn't end in antiquity. Modern asbestos companies followed the same playbook—except they left paper trails. If you or a family member has been diagnosed with mesothelioma, the attorneys at Danziger & De Llano have spent over 30 years uncovering those trails. Learn more: https://dandell.com/mesothelioma/
Key Facts Referenced
Finnish Neolithic Pottery (4700 BCE): The oldest confirmed human use of asbestos. Pottery fragments with anthophyllite asbestos fibers found at 300+ archaeological sites across Fennoscandia. Verified through X-ray diffraction analysis by Lavento & Hornytzkyj (1995-96).
Karystos Archaeological Surveys: The Southern Euboea Exploration Project surveyed 375+ ancient sites at what ancient writers called the asbestos capital of the Mediterranean. Result: zero asbestos-related artifacts recovered.
Amiantos Mine (Cyprus): Named after asbestos ("amiantos" = Greek for asbestos). Modern mining operations (1904-1988) extracted approximately 130 million tons of material. Ancient mining evidence: none documented.
Mesothelioma in Ancient Remains: Only 18 soft tissue tumors have ever been identified in mummified human remains worldwide (Fornaciari, 2018). No researcher has specifically searched for mesothelioma or analyzed mummy lung tissue for asbestos fibers.
Verified Ancient Asbestos Artifacts: Byzantine wall painting composites at the Enkleistra of St. Neophytos, Cyprus (1196 AD). Benjamin Franklin's asbestos purse (1725), held at the Natural History Museum, London.
Modern Production Scale: 2023 global asbestos production reached 1.3 million metric tons—compared to ancient production likely measured in dozens to hundreds of kilograms annually.
Full Transcript
Introduction
GABE: Six episodes in, and we've got a problem.
GEORGIA: What kind of problem?
GABE: If I told you there was a luxury material in the ancient world—rarer than silk, more valuable than pearls, owned only by emperors and wrapped around dead kings—
GEORGIA: I'd expect to find it. Tombs. Museums. Shipwrecks. We find ancient bread. Ancient cheese. A two-thousand-year-old butter in a bog.
GABE: Right. Gold survives. Silver survives. Pottery, obviously. But asbestos cloth? The thing every ancient writer couldn't stop talking about?
GEORGIA: Where is it?
GABE: Gone. Almost all of it.
GEORGIA: How do you lose track of something emperors were buried in?
GABE: That's the question. And here's where it gets strange. When archaeologists went looking—systematic surveys, decades of work, thousands of artifacts recovered—the famous sites had nothing.
GEORGIA: Nothing.
GABE: Karystos. The asbestos capital of the ancient world according to Pliny, Strabo, Pausanias. Three hundred seventy-five sites surveyed. Nine thousand artifacts. Zero evidence of asbestos production.
GEORGIA: So where's the evidence?
GABE: Finland.
GEORGIA: ...Finland.
GABE: Six thousand seven hundred years old. Pottery shards with asbestos fibers baked right in. Three hundred archaeological sites across Scandinavia.
GEORGIA: But the Finns never—
GABE: Never wrote a word about it. Not one ancient text. Meanwhile, the Mediterranean world that documented everything in exquisite detail—
GEORGIA: Left nothing behind.
GABE: So the people who wrote about asbestos left no physical evidence. And the people who left evidence never wrote about it.
GEORGIA: That's... that's weird, right? That's not just me being paranoid?
GABE: In a series about how information gets buried, how evidence disappears, how powerful people control what gets remembered and what gets forgotten—
GEORGIA: This feels like the first chapter.
GABE: This is the template. And once you see it, you can't unsee it.
Section 1: Finnish Neolithic Asbestos Pottery
Key finding: The oldest and best-documented archaeological evidence of human asbestos use comes from Finland, not the Mediterranean.
GABE: Around 4700 BCE—that's centuries before the pyramids—people around Lake Saimaa in southeastern Finland discovered something useful.
GEORGIA: What were they doing?
GABE: Make better pottery. They had a problem—regular clay vessels crack under thermal stress. Heat them, cool them, they shatter. Super annoying if you're trying to, you know, cook food.
GEORGIA: So they experimented.
GABE: They crushed up this local fibrous rock—anthophyllite asbestos from metamorphic deposits in the hills—and mixed it into the clay. The fibers act as reinforcement. Stronger vessels, way better thermal shock resistance. And here's the thing—this is actually brilliant materials science, even by modern standards.
GEORGIA: How so?
GABE: Okay, so anthophyllite is a magnesium-iron inosilicate, right? Orthorhombic crystal system, double-chain silicate structure. The hydroxyl groups in the M4 cation sites require way more thermal energy to break than your serpentine polymorphs like chrysotile—
GEORGIA: Hey—
GABE: —we're talking dehydroxylation temperatures above 850 Celsius versus maybe 600 for chrysotile. And because anthophyllite's got that prismatic cleavage along the c-axis, the fibers maintain tensile strength through the entire sintering process right up to vitrification—
GEORGIA: Hold on—
GABE: —and the coefficient of thermal expansion is close enough to fired clay that you avoid differential stress fracturing during the cooling phase. Plus the refractory behavior means you're not getting mullite formation at the fiber-matrix interface, which is actually the critical failure point for most ceramic—
GEORGIA: STOP.
GABE: —matrices. What?
GEORGIA: You just said "M4 cation sites."
GABE: I did?
GEORGIA: And "prismatic cleavage along the c-axis."
GABE: ...yeah. Sorry. The point is: it worked. Neolithic Finns figured out materials science that we can explain now but they just... knew. Empirically. Through trial and error over generations.
GEORGIA: How do we know this for sure? Not just, like, "we found some old pots"?
GABE: X-ray diffraction analysis. Lavento and Hornytzkyj published the studies in 1995 and '96. Scanning electron microscopy. Chemical fingerprinting that traces the fibers to specific geological formations in eastern Finland.
GEORGIA: So this isn't speculation.
GABE: This is pottery shards in museums. Three hundred documented sites across Fennoscandia. Thousands of fragments recovered. The tradition spread eastward, reaching the Arkhangelsk region of Russia by the mid-fourth millennium BCE.
GEORGIA: Wait. This lasted how long?
GABE: Over three thousand years. Some forms persisted in northern Karelia into the medieval period. Maybe later in isolated communities.
Section 2: The Mediterranean Evidence Gap
Key finding: Despite extensive archaeological surveys, no physical evidence of ancient asbestos production has been found at Karystos (Greece) or Amiantos (Cyprus)—the most famous ancient sources.
GABE: Now here's where it gets strange. Karystos, on the Greek island of Euboea. Strabo mentions it. Pliny describes it. Pausanias names it specifically as the source of asbestos textiles.
GEORGIA: The famous asbestos capital.
GABE: Bronze Age importance confirmed. Linear B tablets from Thebes, around 1225 BCE, reference "ka-ru-to"—establishing Karystos was significant in the Late Bronze Age palace economy.
GEORGIA: Okay.
GABE: The Southern Euboea Exploration Project has been surveying that region since 1984. Over three hundred seventy-five ancient sites documented.
GEORGIA: And?
GABE: Zero asbestos-related findings.
GEORGIA: Wait, none?
GABE: Norwegian Archaeological Survey ran from 2012 to 2016. Twenty square kilometers surveyed. Ninety-nine new findspots. Over nine thousand stone artifacts recovered.
GEORGIA: That's thorough.
GABE: Asbestos-related findings from all that systematic archaeology? Zero.
GEORGIA: So they found everything except the asbestos.
GABE: They found the marble quarries. Giant twelve-meter columns still lying in situ at Mount Ochi. Road systems. Processing areas. The cipollino marble extraction is spectacularly documented.
GEORGIA: But not the asbestos.
GABE: Not the asbestos.
GEORGIA: What about Cyprus? Amiantos—the place literally named after asbestos?
GABE: Dioscorides explicitly states "amiantos stone is found in Cyprus." First century AD. The modern mine operated from 1904 to 1988. Extracted approximately one hundred thirty million tons of material.
GEORGIA: Wait—a hundred thirty million tons?
GABE: From one mine. Eighty-four years of industrial extraction.
GEORGIA: Okay. So what did they find from antiquity?
GABE: Nothing.
GEORGIA: I'm sorry, what?
GABE: No ancient galleries. No tools. No processing debris. Nothing.
GEORGIA: A hundred thirty million tons of modern extraction and nobody tripped over an ancient pickaxe?
GABE: Not one.
Section 3: Why No Mesothelioma in Ancient Remains
Key finding: The absence of mesothelioma in ancient human remains is the predictable result of soft tissue preservation challenges, tiny exposure populations, and the fact that no targeted research has been conducted.
GABE: If ancient people worked with asbestos, why don't we find mesothelioma in ancient remains?
GEORGIA: That's what I keep waiting for. The smoking gun in a mummy or something.
GABE: Here's why it doesn't exist. First—mesothelioma is a soft tissue cancer. It affects the pleura, peritoneum, pericardium. The linings of organs.
GEORGIA: Not bones.
GABE: Not bones. It leaves zero skeletal trace. And soft tissue almost never survives archaeologically.
GEORGIA: Except in mummies.
GABE: Except in exceptional preservation. Total soft tissue tumors ever identified in mummified remains worldwide? Eighteen cases. Only five of those malignant.
GEORGIA: Eighteen. Total.
GABE: A 2025 CT study by Panzer and colleagues examined forty-five Egyptian mummies. Found five with probable soft tissue masses. That's eleven percent—but from the most perfectly preserved bodies ancient Egypt produced.
GEORGIA: Okay, but has anyone actually looked for mesothelioma specifically?
GABE: No.
GEORGIA: Wait—
GABE: No researcher has specifically searched for mesothelioma in ancient mummified remains. No mummy lung tissue has been analyzed for asbestos fibers.
GEORGIA: So we don't know because nobody's looked.
Section 4: Verified vs. Unverified Evidence
GABE: Before we close the ancient world, let's be honest about what we don't actually know.
GEORGIA: Myth-busting ourselves.
GABE: The Vatican 1702 specimen. You'll see this in popular sources—asbestos cloth supposedly found in a Roman sarcophagus near Rome.
GEORGIA: Real?
GABE: Unverified. I couldn't find primary documentation. It appears in secondary sources, but nobody cites an original record.
GEORGIA: So maybe real, maybe not.
GABE: Maybe telephone. Same with "asbestos textiles from Pompeii." Sounds plausible, right? Buried by Vesuvius, perfectly preserved—
GEORGIA: Except?
GABE: No asbestos textiles have been confirmed from Pompeii or Herculaneum. Textile preservation there is carbonized organic fibers. Wool. Linen. Cotton. Not minerals.
What IS verified:
- Byzantine wall paintings (1196 AD): Kakoulli et al. (2014) found chrysotile asbestos fibers in plaster at the Enkleistra of St. Neophytos, Cyprus
- Benjamin Franklin's asbestos purse (1725): Tremolite asbestos, documented in Royal Society records, held at Natural History Museum London
Section 5: Closing the Ancient Era
GABE: So. Four thousand five hundred years. What do we actually know?
GEORGIA: Ancient asbestos was real.
GABE: The pottery proves it. The written sources are consistent. Multiple independent writers across centuries describing the same properties.
GEORGIA: It was rare.
GABE: Geological constraints. Two viable source regions. Surface deposits that exhausted quickly.
GEORGIA: And it was remarkable.
GABE: Genuinely amazing to people who saw it. Cloth that doesn't burn. Of course they thought it was magic. Of course they thought it was divine.
GABE: But ultimately, it was limited.
GEORGIA: Limited how?
GABE: Scale. Ancient production was probably measured in dozens to hundreds of kilograms annually.
GEORGIA: And today?
GABE: 2023 global production: one point three million metric tons. The Amiantos mine alone—1904 to 1988—probably produced more asbestos than all of human history before it.
Episode 7 Preview
GABE: Next time: A letter from a king who doesn't exist. A tablecloth that may never have been. And the medieval con artists who found the perfect product—something you could prove was miraculous just by throwing it in a fire.
GEORGIA: Episode 7.
GABE: Episode 7. The grift goes professional.
Closing Sponsor
GABE: You know what strikes me about everything we just covered?
GEORGIA: What's that?
GABE: The ancient world had an excuse. Soft tissue cancer. Twenty-year latency periods. Life expectancy of thirty-five if you were lucky. The math made it literally impossible to connect cause and effect.
GEORGIA: They couldn't see the pattern.
GABE: They couldn't see the pattern. But we can. Three thousand Americans diagnosed with mesothelioma every year. And unlike ancient textile workers whose stories vanished—we know where the exposure happened. Shipyards. Refineries. Construction sites. Power plants. Navy vessels.
GEORGIA: And there's a paper trail.
GABE: There's a paper trail. Internal memos. Buried studies. Meeting minutes. The companies kept records of what they knew and when they knew it.
GEORGIA: If you're listening to this and you or someone you love has been diagnosed with mesothelioma—or any illness related to asbestos exposure—I want to tell you about the team at Danziger & De Llano: mesothelioma law firm.
GABE: Paul Danziger started taking on asbestos companies before some of them even admitted there was a problem. Thirty years of depositions, exposed cover-ups, exposed internal memos that proved what the manufacturers knew.
GEORGIA: Rod De Llano handles the cases other firms won't touch. Exposure that happened decades ago. Companies that changed names three times. Evidence that seems impossible to find—until you know where to look.
GABE: And their patient advocacy team actually understands what families are going through. Dave Foster—their Executive Director of patient advocacy—literally wrote the book on surviving mesothelioma.
GEORGIA: Wait, actually?
GABE: "Beating The Odds." It's on Amazon right now. Real stories from patients diagnosed with aggressive, metastatic mesothelioma—people who were told they had months to live and somehow beat those odds. Not fluffy inspirational stuff. Actual survival stories from people fighting the same fight.
GEORGIA: And if you can't afford the book?
GABE: Call the firm. They'll send you a free copy. And if you want to hear from one of the survivors in the book—Katherine Keys, the longest documented pleural mesothelioma survivor, eighteen years and counting—there's a three-part interview with her on our sister podcast, MESO: The Mesothelioma Podcast.
GEORGIA: Anna Jackson runs their patient support team. Nearly fifteen years helping families through this. She lost her own husband to cancer.
GABE: These aren't people reading from a script. They've lived it.
GEORGIA: Here's the thing. There's over thirty billion dollars sitting in asbestos trust funds right now. Money set aside specifically for victims. And most people don't even know it exists.
GABE: Nearly two billion dollars recovered for asbestos victims by this firm alone.
GEORGIA: If you want to understand your options—if you just want to talk to someone who's been doing this longer than most firms have existed—the consultation is free. No pressure. Just information.
GABE: Dandell.com.
GEORGIA: That's D-A-N-D-E-L-L dot com. Or call them directly. They'll actually answer.
GABE: Unlike the ancient sources, this paper trail isn't going anywhere.
GEORGIA: And neither are they.
Frequently Asked Questions
What is the archaeological evidence for ancient asbestos use?
The best archaeological evidence for ancient asbestos use comes from Finnish Neolithic pottery, not Mediterranean textiles. Starting around 4700 BCE, people in the Lake Saimaa region of Finland mixed crushed anthophyllite asbestos into pottery clay for thermal reinforcement. This tradition is documented at over 300 archaeological sites across Fennoscandia, with fiber identification confirmed through X-ray diffraction analysis (Lavento & Hornytzkyj, 1996).
Paradoxically, the Mediterranean world that produced extensive written documentation of asbestos cloth has yielded almost no physical archaeological evidence. The Southern Euboea Exploration Project surveyed 375+ ancient sites at Karystos (Greece)—named in ancient texts as a primary asbestos source—and found zero asbestos-related artifacts. Similar surveys at Amiantos (Cyprus), literally named after asbestos, have found no evidence of ancient mining operations.
Related: Learn about modern asbestos exposure sources and how they differ from ancient use: https://dandell.com/asbestos-exposure/
Why don't we find mesothelioma in ancient mummies?
Several factors explain the absence of mesothelioma in ancient human remains:
Soft tissue cancer: Mesothelioma affects the pleura (lung lining), peritoneum (abdominal lining), and pericardium (heart lining)—organ linings that decompose and leave no trace on bones. Skeletal remains cannot show evidence of mesothelioma.
Preservation rarity: Only 18 soft tissue tumors have ever been identified in mummified remains worldwide, with only 5 confirmed malignant (Fornaciari, 2018). A 2025 study of 45 Egyptian mummies found probable soft tissue masses in only 11% (Panzer et al.).
No targeted research: No researcher has specifically searched for mesothelioma in ancient mummified remains. No mummy lung tissue has been analyzed for asbestos fibers.
Scale of exposure: Ancient asbestos workers numbered in the hundreds to low thousands at any given time, compared to millions during industrial-era exposure. Even at modern disease rates, absolute case numbers would be tiny.
Related: Understanding mesothelioma diagnosis and symptoms today: https://dandell.com/mesothelioma/
When did humans first use asbestos?
The earliest confirmed human use of asbestos dates to approximately 4700 BCE in Finland, where Neolithic peoples mixed anthophyllite asbestos fibers into pottery clay. This predates written records by millennia and represents over 3,000 years of continuous pottery tradition in Fennoscandia.
Mediterranean literary sources documenting asbestos cloth appear much later—primarily from Greek and Roman writers between 400 BCE and 100 CE, including Theophrastus, Strabo, Pliny the Elder, and Pausanias.
What ancient asbestos artifacts have been verified?
Verified with physical evidence:
- Finnish Neolithic pottery with asbestos temper (4700 BCE onward) — thousands of fragments at 300+ sites
- Byzantine wall painting composites at Enkleistra of St. Neophytos, Cyprus (1196 AD) — Kakoulli et al. (2014)
- Benjamin Franklin's asbestos purse (1725) — Natural History Museum London
Unverified claims (no primary documentation located):
- Vatican 1702 specimen (Roman sarcophagus cloth)
- Asbestos textiles from Pompeii/Herculaneum — no asbestos textiles confirmed; preserved textiles are carbonized organic fibers
How much asbestos did the ancient world produce compared to modern industry?
Ancient production was likely measured in dozens to hundreds of kilograms annually—no scholarly quantitative estimates exist, but geological constraints, exhaustion of deposits noted by ancient writers, and luxury pricing all point to extremely limited scale.
Modern comparison: 2023 global asbestos production reached approximately 1.3 million metric tons. The Amiantos mine in Cyprus alone (1904-1988) extracted approximately 130 million tons of material—likely exceeding all pre-industrial asbestos extraction in human history.
This scale difference matters. Ancient exposure affected hundreds of workers. Industrial-era exposure affected millions—shipyard workers, construction workers, Navy veterans, refinery workers, and their families. Over $30 billion sits in asbestos trust funds specifically for victims of industrial exposure.
Related: Asbestos trust funds and compensation options: https://dandell.com/asbestos-trust-funds/
What occupations had the highest asbestos exposure?
While ancient exposure was limited to specialty textile workers and miners, industrial-era asbestos exposure affected workers across dozens of industries:
- Shipyard workers and Navy veterans — Asbestos insulation in ships remained common through the 1970s. Veterans account for approximately 30% of all mesothelioma cases.
- Construction workers — Insulation, roofing, flooring, and drywall products contained asbestos.
- Refinery and power plant workers — High-heat environments used asbestos insulation extensively.
- Automotive workers — Brake pads and clutches contained asbestos fibers.
- Demolition and renovation workers — Disturbing old asbestos materials creates exposure risk.
Related: Full list of asbestos exposure occupations: https://dandell.com/asbestos-exposure/
Related: Veterans and mesothelioma resources: https://dandell.com/veterans-mesothelioma/
Episode Credits
Series: Asbestos: A Conspiracy 4,500 Years in the Making
Episode: 6 — What the Ancients Left Behind
Hosts: Gabe and Georgia
Production: Wondercraft AI
Sponsor: Danziger & De Llano: Mesothelioma Law Firm
Resources for Mesothelioma Patients and Families
Understanding Your Diagnosis
- What is mesothelioma? Types, symptoms, and prognosis: https://dandell.com/mesothelioma/
- Pleural mesothelioma (lung lining): https://dandell.com/pleural-mesothelioma/
- Peritoneal mesothelioma (abdominal lining): https://dandell.com/peritoneal-mesothelioma/
Asbestos Exposure Information
- Common exposure sources by occupation: https://dandell.com/asbestos-exposure/
- Shipyard and maritime exposure: https://dandell.com/asbestos-exposure/shipyards/
- Construction industry exposure: https://dandell.com/asbestos-exposure/construction/
- Refinery and industrial exposure: https://dandell.com/asbestos-exposure/refineries/
Compensation and Legal Resources
- Asbestos trust funds ($30+ billion available): https://dandell.com/asbestos-trust-funds/
- Mesothelioma lawsuits explained: https://dandell.com/mesothelioma-lawsuit/
- VA benefits for veterans with mesothelioma: https://dandell.com/veterans-mesothelioma/
- Free case evaluation: https://dandell.com/contact/
About Danziger & De Llano
- Over 30 years of mesothelioma litigation experience
- Nearly $2 billion recovered for asbestos victims and their families
- Paul Danziger, Founding Partner: https://dandell.com/paul-danziger/
- Rod De Llano, Partner: https://dandell.com/rod-de-llano/
Patient Advocacy Team
- Dave Foster, Executive Director of Patient Advocacy (18 years experience)
- Author of "Beating The Odds: Surviving with Mesothelioma" — Available on Amazon or request a free copy from the firm
- Anna Jackson, Director of Patient Support (15 years experience)
Related Listening
- MESO: The Mesothelioma Podcast — Patient stories, medical guidance, and legal information: https://dandell.com/podcast/
- Katherine Keys interview (3 parts) — Longest documented pleural mesothelioma survivor (18+ years)
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Panzer, S. et al. (2025). "Systematic assessment of bone and soft tissue tumors on whole-body CTs of 45 mummies." Scientific Reports 15:21482.
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Tanković, Ž. et al. (2021). "New data on southern Euboean landscapes." BSA 116: 133-165.
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